Tin Soldier Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 Hi @Stones it is A sips panelled roof I’m putting In was it sarked with white wood then battened or just battened directly onto breather membrane over the sips panel itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stones Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 No whitewood sarking at all, just battens onto membrane as you suggest. We had considered using a cassette roof system on our last house and the TF company proposed battening the cassette panels (OSB sheathed) then fitting sarking onto the battens ready for slating as normal, so I suppose you could do it either way. A lot depends on the slate you plan to use. If its all of a uniform size, then fixing to appropriately spaced battens would seem to be the way to go. If you're using reclaimed slate, whitewood sarking may well offer more flexibility for fixing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 Definite uniform size slates my structural engineer provided construction notes of how to do everything and it states Osb sarking with battens if filing and 22x150 sarking if slating. i have wondered why I would sark an already uniform structure like a sips panel, a question for the sips company I guess, now that I’m doing the roofing myself.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 some slight developments in that I went out for quotes for the roof structure just incase they were reasonable. its roughly 200m2 30k including Spanish slate, or 23k if I provide my own... that 30k would cover sarking, membrane, slating/ridge and leadwork.. but not include the two small sarnafil catslides. 30k!... wow. anyway I've cracked on with a slight dislike for roofing companies I've purchased my own slates, 16x8 (400 x 200) welsh purple slates, reclaimed from the local (ish) prison that was knocked down. fantastic condition, straight and flat. 90p a slate. ( In need circa 6000) they are being delivered on wednesday 30k... honestly... I'm in the wrong job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Tin Soldier said: I've purchased my own slates, 16x8 (400 x 200) welsh purple slates, reclaimed.... Da iawn. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 Hi There, I'm looking at sourcing Ridge Tiles for my roof, current roof has fireclay, mortar bedded, buff colour tiles. whats he pro's and cons of dry ridge v mortar bedded. which stands up to high winds better? Also struggling to find clay ridge tiles (especially in buff colour) Just plain angled. does anyone have any sources? I've found GRC (Glass Reinforced Concrete) Ridges - https://www.roofingsuppliesuk.co.uk/GRC-450mm-Plain-Angle-Ridge at a reasonable price, but they're not clay.. Will it matter, would I regret it? Cheers Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpmiller Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 plastic options too- https://www.tradelineupvc.co.uk/index.php?Page=product&ProductID=1124 dryfix has them all clamped down w/ plates and screws/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted January 25, 2018 Author Share Posted January 25, 2018 Slates have been delivered a few months ahead of the game but happy to have them all in good nick, very consistent no need to rehole Happy days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpd Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Look great, will Give the roof that bit more character being second hand. Good luck ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Cpd said: Look great, will Give the roof that bit more character being second hand. Good luck ! +1 I wonder how long they were on the other roof for, and how long they'll be on yours....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted January 26, 2018 Author Share Posted January 26, 2018 Well I'd be interested to know that too @Nickfromwales Peterhead prison went up in 1888, I wonder at what point these went on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tin Soldier said: Well I'd be interested to know that too @Nickfromwales Peterhead prison went up in 1888, I wonder at what point these went on? When the prisoners finished fitting them most prob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted January 26, 2018 Author Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/crime/peterhead-unlocked-how-sas-troops-2472605 I wonder if I'll find any initials Edited January 26, 2018 by Tin Soldier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 so another roof related question this time its constructing an actual roof, as opposed to covering a pre built house The panel company are onsite in March and they will be constructing the main building, but will not be doing anything to join the existing extension. they are responsible for installing the steel beam that supports the opening between the two, but I will need to construct the roof structure itself. I'm just at the start of me figuring out how to do this, I've never really paid it much notice as I don't need to open it up until I am ready I've attached a pic of the bit I'm interested in, the structural engineer has asked for 3 lengths of (doubled up 2x10) hung from existing stone wall on the left, and adjoining the steel beam on the right. My question is around how to connect the timbers to both the stone wall and the steel on the right, do I buy joist hangers for both sides (if so any pointers). in terms of the steel on the right to I cut the wood and sit it in the flange of the steal, or is there a specialist hanger for the steel beam any pointers greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simplysimon Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 hi @Tin Soldier i can think of a couple of methods, however, your architect or se should be giving a bit more detail. nhbc details here http://nhbccampaigns.co.uk/landingpages/techzone/previous_versions/2011/Part6/section4/sitework.htm can give you some ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Construction Channel Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 9 hours ago, Tin Soldier said: so another roof related question this time its constructing an actual roof, as opposed to covering a pre built house The panel company are onsite in March and they will be constructing the main building, but will not be doing anything to join the existing extension. they are responsible for installing the steel beam that supports the opening between the two, but I will need to construct the roof structure itself. I'm just at the start of me figuring out how to do this, I've never really paid it much notice as I don't need to open it up until I am ready I've attached a pic of the bit I'm interested in, the structural engineer has asked for 3 lengths of (doubled up 2x10) hung from existing stone wall on the left, and adjoining the steel beam on the right. My question is around how to connect the timbers to both the stone wall and the steel on the right, do I buy joist hangers for both sides (if so any pointers). in terms of the steel on the right to I cut the wood and sit it in the flange of the steal, or is there a specialist hanger for the steel beam any pointers greatly appreciated. from how I read it, the left connection will be in a "double hanger" fixed to a trimmer/wall plate/ rim joist connected to the wall, it needs to be connected with m12 resin fixed bolts but it doesn't say what centres? (text in the middle refers to this) as for the right, we would notch them into the web unless stated otherwise, then either pack the webs on either side of them or make sure there is a row of noggins very close by, I am surprised he hasn't specced for the doubles to be bolted together as well. is there a spec to go along with the drawings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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