Ferdinand Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) Yes - October is Howden's sale month. My 2.2k Howdens kitchen will be finished tomorrow (I think), and I will post piccies. The worktop is going to cost @PeterW £10, 'cos it's beautifully square. Ferdinand Edited October 24, 2017 by Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 From memory, Howdens have a sale every October and they're pushed by the people upstairs to turn stock over. Make them a silly offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney12 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 On 10/22/2017 at 07:26, ryder72 said: Handleless in kitchen termonilogy really means recessed handles where channels are rebated into the carcase and metal trims inserted. Doors close on these trims. The recess that is formed is effectively your 'handle' so it could be argued that it is a bit of a misnomer. Handless kitchens require different carcase construction and door sizing to work so not every company can do it. English companies that mostly make up carcases and buy in off the peg doors have got around it my either putting magnetic push latch or spring activated drawers and removed conventional handles and called it handleless which IMO is just a daft idea. The other option is doors with grooves on the top of the door, also not very clever as there is no grip available on appliance doors. Handleless is not for everyone, especially is one suffers from arthritis. For a well made handleless kitchen, you will have to look at the Europeans, particularly German or Italian kitchens. Not many of them do curved units. This is a typically British thing and the best argument I have ever heard against curved units is from a German manufacturer - Tetra Pak designed a square container for fluids that can take any shape for efficiency and you want to buy cylindrical containers for rigid objects. So aesthetics apart, the case for curved units is weak. They are horrendously expensive as well. Remember, only a fraction (typically 35-40%) of your kitchen price will be furniture so when you compare one supplier to another, you need to look at the relative differences between the furniture costs. Picking up on the above re handleless and also @PeterW comment about Homebase I was intrigued by this one in their new range. It does appear at first glance to be a true handless design at a reasonable price? https://www.homebase.co.uk/flute-kitchen_bbundle0032 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 @Barney12 they are pretty good but like most handleless designs they are square edged so where the finger grip meets the edge of the door there will always be a seam. It’s the trimming and finishing of these that causes the problem unless they are a fully sprayed door where there is a proper coating on all surfaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryder72 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Its a strange one. The top drawer has a recess about it but what about the rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I have handless doors in the kitchen, white high gloss and even with my big Mars bar fingers I can open them easily enough. The white doesn't show up finger marks that bad but I have a few plum coloured doors and they would be bad esp the door on the fridge. We priced curved door and it was quickly dropped. On a practical side you can fit very little in a curved cupboard any way. As far as i know the doors where fully sprayed with lots of coats of paint in Italy if the sales man is to be believed. Probably means 2 coats in a shed in Sheffield!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) What pray tell are fingerprints? See if snyone spots the deliberate mistake Edited October 26, 2017 by daiking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Doors beside the extractor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryder72 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Alignment of wall units with top of tall units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) Two identical ovens. If you have two, I would say that they should be complementary eg one gets really really hot for pizzas. And is the fridge sticking out? Edited October 26, 2017 by Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 31 minutes ago, jack said: Doors beside the extractor? 2 minutes ago, Ferdinand said: Two identical ovens. If you have two, I would say that they should be complementary eg one gets really really hot for pizzas. No 29 minutes ago, ryder72 said: Alignment of wall units with top of tall units. Disappointed by you The oven carcasses are not handleless. Deliberate choice of utility over design so we could get the bottom drawers in that Alno style. The drawers should have handles but don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryder72 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 hour ago, daiking said: No Disappointed by you The oven carcasses are not handleless. Deliberate choice of utility over design so we could get the bottom drawers in that Alno style. The drawers should have handles but don’t. I didnt think Alno did oven housings with the rails in them. How about this (not Alno)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 minute ago, ryder72 said: I didnt think Alno did oven housings with the rails in them. How about this (not Alno)? Exactly thats how it should look. I got told at the time we could have the rails or the drawers but not both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryder72 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 A Ha... This has both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzie Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Here is CGI of my Italian kitchen, handleless with rails. Have got handles on the large double opening unit. I have honed granite worktop (with bora hob inset) and spekva oak for the breakfast bar. Overall length of island is 5.2m. This build us taking so long its just never ending kitchen is in storage and is now rebooked for January installation. This image keeps me going through the interminable delays and endless problems with this build. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSS Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, lizzie said: Here is CGI of my Italian kitchen, handleless with rails. Have got handles on the large double opening unit. I have honed granite worktop (with bora hob inset) and spekva oak for the breakfast bar. Overall length of island is 5.2m. This build us taking so long its just never ending kitchen is in storage and is now rebooked for January installation. This image keeps me going through the interminable delays and endless problems with this build. Looks like it will be worth the wait @lizzie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney12 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 21 minutes ago, lizzie said: Here is CGI of my Italian kitchen, handleless with rails. Have got handles on the large double opening unit. I have honed granite worktop (with bora hob inset) and spekva oak for the breakfast bar. Overall length of island is 5.2m. This build us taking so long its just never ending kitchen is in storage and is now rebooked for January installation. This image keeps me going through the interminable delays and endless problems with this build. That looks stunning. Love that dark grey oak worktop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crofter Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 16 hours ago, daiking said: See if snyone spots the deliberate mistake The switch furthest on the right has a black surround, all the others have white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 22 minutes ago, Crofter said: The switch furthest on the right has a black surround, all the others have white. That’s just a mistake not a deliberate one. Does everyone notice these last 3 handleless kitchen images are surfaces that shouldn’t show fingerprints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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