Onoff Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 The nephew, building his timber pallet shed has been offered some planked, untreated timber to use as cladding. The timber is from long felled trees and a variety of beech, ash and I think some cherry and lime. Planks are circa 20 - 25 1mm think and not feather edged. I think it could look pretty good. Any tips for using it? The shed frame as I say is pallets. This has a breathable membrane over it and will have vertical battens added for the cladding to attach to. I thought that if he only treats one side with say Creocote the untreated side could swell causing the boards to swell. Best to treat both sides before it goes up? And where to nail...at the top only? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Can he soak-treat them? That would use a lot of treatment, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 Just now, Ferdinand said: Can he soak-treat them? That would use a lot of treatment, mind. Not a bad shout, make a dipping tank. As you say though it would use a lot and he's on a budget. I was thinking to leave "as is" i.e. no colour and just maybe treat against future (existing?) insect attack with some "5 Star" type treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Onoff said: Not a bad shout, make a dipping tank. As you say though it would use a lot and he's on a budget. I was thinking to leave "as is" i.e. no colour and just maybe treat against future (existing?) insect attack with some "5 Star" type treatment. it will swallow a *lot* of fivestar. I treated some CLS used as part of a shed in a bath made from a square of fenceposts and roll polythene, and the amount it sucked in in was amazing. Multiple 5 litre cans can vanish very quickly, and then you have spent perhaps £80-100 on preservative. F Edited October 11, 2017 by Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 I reckon just Creocote both sides. Does old engine oil mix with Creocote like it used to with Creosote? I'm 50 and know parent's neighbours who used that old mix, religously applied annually and their sheds/fences are still standing. Mind you they've had various nasty cancers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 17 minutes ago, Onoff said: I reckon just Creocote both sides. Does old engine oil mix with Creocote like it used to with Creosote? I'm 50 and know parent's neighbours who used that old mix, religously applied annually and their sheds/fences are still standing. Mind you they've had various nasty cancers! Don't know. Checked with my Agricultural Merchant when I bought some fenceposts last w/e and he does stock creosote, so it is out there. F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 You can still buy creosote fairly easily here, too. The restriction is on sales for domestic use, I believe, but it can still be sold for commercial use. It depends where you go as to whether they will just sell it to you or ask for some evidence that you're a commercial user, though. I've bought it from our local agricultural merchant without hassle - I just went in looking scruffy in overalls and wellies. However, I went to buy some toluene recently, which I used to be able to buy without hassle, and was asked to provide written evidence that I was a commercial user. Apparently the government are clamping down on the sale of some commercial-use only substances, or that's what the bloke behind the counter told me. The get-out was easy, I went home, got one of my old aircraft company letterheads, went back and showed it to him and he sold me 5 litres with no hassle............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crofter Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Seems a bit of a shame to be using cherry, beech, and ash to plank the outside of a shed! Wouldn't these boards have more value to a carpenter, cabinet maker, etc? Ash in particular is a great wood for many things but durability outdoors is not its strength. Larch or Douglas would be much lower value and intrinsically more durable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone West Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I've used creosote and creoseal from https://www.creosotesales.co.uk/. The creoseal looks like creosote and even smells like creosote and the rain beads on the surface just the same. It does take a bit longer to dry than creosote though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 58 minutes ago, Crofter said: Seems a bit of a shame to be using cherry, beech, and ash to plank the outside of a shed! Wouldn't these boards have more value to a carpenter, cabinet maker, etc? Ash in particular is a great wood for many things but durability outdoors is not its strength. Larch or Douglas would be much lower value and intrinsically more durable. This is not a shed. It is an ONOFF shed, whatever that means. @Onoff Plan half-B may be to stand the ends in a bucket of 5star for an hour to protect the end grain, as that is where rot could start, and paint or spray the boards themselves. Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 No, I've had some input, others have had a hand! These "planks" are often the first cut off the log and as such random widths and lengths. He (we?) may try and regularize them width wise but leave the lower edge "natural", for effect. Good to know creosote is still out there. (I am seriously debating a pallet based garden room as I think I might have a supply). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 If you spray stuff like Sika it goes a long way. You are coating it not impregnating it into the timber so it should last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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