MikeSharp01 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just about to start, the boards arrive tomorrow, fitting the Plaster Board (PB) to the internal framing which I have created folowing my previous post on drylining. So I guess I need the tools and techniques. 1. What is the best way to cut plasterboard - is it just Stanley knife or should I get a saw of some sort. 2. When cutting out for sockets etc is there are a technique and again a tool. 3. There are only 40 boards in the garden room but 170 in the house. Is now the time to buy the collated screwdriver Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Our guys just scored the boards with a knife and long straight edge, then snapped them. The only sawing was when making the cut outs for sockets, switches, etc. The technique for marking these on the boards (provided the boxes have been correctly fitted so that they protrude into the board) is to cut the board to size. put it in position and then thump it where the box is. This marks the back of the board so that the cut out is in exactly the right place. A collated driver is a must, as you'll get thoroughly sick and tired of trying to do this single-handedly without one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swisscheese Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 This - " just scored the boards with a knife and long straight edge, then snapped them" - and take your time on making the score. I have seen this too - "put it in position and then thump it where the box is" - the plasterer told me it just takes a little experience and courage. - neither of which I had when I did our old utility area! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) Buy this... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Senco-Duraspin-14-4v-auto-feed-collated-screw-gun-/272782031008?hash=item3f831378a0:g:yLIAAOSwtFtZfDkI New Batteries are £18 from County Battery, and they are bullet proof. I bought one and refurbed it with bits from the US for less than $20 Edited to add : Or this one... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SENCO-DS202-14V-DuraSpin-DS202-14V-Cordless-Collated-Screwdriver-/282622613945?hash=item41cd9ed9b9:g:EcgAAOSwLzhZniWZ Edited August 31, 2017 by PeterW Added Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Sharp Stanley long straight edge. Snap and fold then run the knife up the fold from the other side. Get the little yellow surform plane from Screweys for adjusting edges: http://www.screwfix.com/p/stanley-surform-block-plane/20388 I use the mutitool for sockets. Yes to a collated gun. Welcome to borrow my Parkside corded one to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I've got the makita, but TBH it's very hit n miss. One day good another day jamming every half hour. The one linked seems poplar and the DIY SOS crew were using and abusing them so must be good . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 That Dewalt isn't the collated one - it's the bare one with just the setting drive on it from memory. You need the collate feed for it. I'd drop the £30 on that fleabay one that's up the road and then buy a new battery for it .. Senco stuff is good .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Agreed. It's the batteries which are the weak link. Buy the cheap one and get 2 new ( above linked ) batteries. Youll get your money back, just put it here for sale after. . If it's on much longer I may buy it so chop chop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiehamy Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Senco screw gun has been great - Easy fix Collated screws are duff, the Technofast ones are far better. I've gone through about 30,000 so got a good feel! Also, I recommend a Bessey folding knife. Best knife I've ever used and beats any Stanley. Very quick to change blade. Been using ours for two years and mechanically as good as new. Buy plenty of blades to give effortless cutting! Agree with score, break and run blade up other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 49 minutes ago, JSHarris said: provided the boxes have been correctly fitted so that they protrude into the board Sounds like a plan but we are dry lining so boxes fixed from front but at least I can choose the place - cutting out sounds like the multitool approach suggested by @Onoff. (will be supported locally above and below by horizontal battens) 54 minutes ago, PeterW said: £18 from County Battery @PeterWIs it the Ryobi battery - they seem not have the Senco stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Yep it is one and the same battery .... you can also send them your old battery and they will recore it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 Thanks @PeterW Ok, I have ordered the Senco on fleabay, will now get a couple of batteries and see if I can make it all fly. @jamiehamy Will get the technofast screws and Bessey knife as well. Thanks all, better get back to pulling the last of the cables through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, PeterW said: Buy this... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Senco-Duraspin-14-4v-auto-feed-collated-screw-gun-/272782031008?hash=item3f831378a0:g:yLIAAOSwtFtZfDkI New Batteries are £18 from County Battery, and they are bullet proof. I bought one and refurbed it with bits from the US for less than $20 Edited to add : Or this one... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SENCO-DS202-14V-DuraSpin-DS202-14V-Cordless-Collated-Screwdriver-/282622613945?hash=item41cd9ed9b9:g:EcgAAOSwLzhZniWZ I have the Senco and it is a great piece of kit. Just keep checking the drive bit is ok to ensure good contact with the screws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 +1 to what @Pete said Drive bits are cheap enough to replace - I also use Senco screws as they are a little more expensive but worth every penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney12 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Don't muck about with a surform imho. Spend a tenner on one of these: http://www.screwfix.com/p/marshalltown-drywall-rasp/74692?kpid=74692&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIr6mw1LqB1gIV4r3tCh2yTAfbEAQYASABEgI4ofD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CMqqgfa6gdYCFaeD7Qodim0BUQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney12 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) P.S. if you really want to spoil yourself grab a blade runner. It is really clever and a big timesaver. No need for a straight edge and no need to cut both sides. Finding one in the U.K. Can be the tricky part. http://www.toolsofthetrade.net/hand-tools/cutting-tools/first-test-goldblatt-bladerunner_o Edit: evilbay to the rescue: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blade-Runner-Plasterboard-Cutter-/332354544556?epid=1907615876&hash=item4d61dfe3ac:g:vJwAAOSwBlxZnYwH Edited August 31, 2017 by Barney12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Plenty of the corded, collated screw guns in Lidl Sevenoaks still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 @MikeSharp01, you should know better than to come on BH and ask stoooooopid questions like that. I mean, who is going to say, "Naaah mate, just struggle on with a teaspoon, that'll do: I used a bent one, it was free cos I found it in the gutter: I sharpened it by rubbing it on a mermaid's thigh for 6 weeks." Instead you get: 5 hours ago, JSHarris said: [...] A collated driver is a must, as you'll get thoroughly sick and tired of trying to do this single-handedly without one. Bingo.... "Look Darling, Jeremy says we should get one, so I'm off down the BM...... OK? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, recoveringacademic said: Plenty of the corded, collated screw guns in Lidl Sevenoaks still Yes I saw them last weekend. Might get one for the hell of it. Sorry that should be an @Onoff quote not sure what happened there. Edited August 31, 2017 by MikeSharp01 Misquote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 14 minutes ago, recoveringacademic said: you should know better than to come on BH and ask stoooooopid questions like that. I mean, who is going to say, "Naaah mate, just struggle on with a teaspoon, that'll do: I used a bent one, it was free cos I found it in the gutter: I sharpened it ... Very funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Construction Channel Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, recoveringacademic said: you should know better than to come on BH and ask stoooooopid questions like that. I mean, who is going to say, "Naaah mate, just struggle on with a teaspoon, have you got/ looked into a board lifter? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Drywall-Panel-Plaster-Board-Sheet-Hoist-Lift-Lifting-Lifter-Construct-Tool-11ft-/253098500094?epid=2185774479&hash=item3aedd89ffe:g:jr4AAOSwRztZk8jg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 http://www.screwfix.com/p/roughneck-plaster-board-carrier/51509 These are pretty good if you haven't got good grip strength. Easy than trying to stretch your fingers round the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 25 minutes ago, Construction Channel said: have you got/ looked into a board lifter? Nope not yet, next find. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 hours ago, MikeSharp01 said: Yes I saw them last weekend. Might get one for the hell of it. Sorry that should be an @Onoff quote not sure what happened there. There were seriously posh people in there earlier, the woman exclaimed "Oh look Roger they do TOOLS!" They then stood there enthusing about a ratcheting, multi size, fits anything spanner thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, MikeSharp01 said: Nope not yet, next find. The old Self build yahoo group had one that you bought shares in .... Next tool hire for the team ..?? Board lifter ..?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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