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looking s/h "lewis pins " or something to lift my granite stone around -new ones start at £200+

rebuilidmg the long wall and its got lots of big granite top stones that I cannot lift -wall is 100+yds long 

and as I can only get at one side --the other side is a 40ft drop --I need something to attach to a digger to lift them 

I cannot even find sensible priced stone tongs  and no one to hire them from 

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good idea

if i had space to get landrover sieways across the road with space to manouvre --but no 

I,m plotting on some way to use my dumper ,which has swing -side tip 

 maybe a scaffolding pole out front of it with swivel and lifting straps -

tilt the dumper bucket to raise and lower the stone 

and swivel for fine postioing .

rummaging about at my garage to see what I can find +buy some web slings 

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8 minutes ago, scottishjohn said:

good idea

if i had space to get landrover sieways across the road with space to manouvre --but no 

I,m plotting on some way to use my dumper ,which has swing -side tip 

 maybe a scaffolding pole out front of it with swivel and lifting straps -

tilt the dumper bucket to raise and lower the stone 

and swivel for fine postioing .

rummaging about at my garage to see what I can find +buy some web slings 

 

Lets hope @Onoff reads this.

The last of the videos above has a separate crane unit - based on two strong A frames. That appeals to me. Hitched to a towing point, it means that the unit can be stored and tinkered with separately. 

 

Is there any way to attach a rig like that to the swinging part of the dumper?

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Just now, ToughButterCup said:

 

Lets hope @Onoff reads this.

The last of the videos above has a separate crane unit - based on two strong A frames. That appeals to me. Hitched to a towing point, it means that the unit can be stored and tinkered with separately. 

 

Is there any way to attach a rig like that to the swinging part of the dumper?

 

The BiL funnily enough has knocked up a box section jib for the front of his dumper. No calcs, just rule of thumb / over engineered. I'll get a pic over the next day or so.

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I only need to lift approx 3-4 ft from  ground for top of wall so trying not to get to complicated and spend a week making something 

obviously I can as I have all engineering facilites mig tig ,lathe miller -etc etc -- but not a site 9miles away 

transporting dumper will cost 

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

dumper converted and working well

 consists of a kwickstage upright 10ft  with a length of thick walled steam pipe tack welded to the scaffolding pole brackets ,so I can reclaim the pole when done

and bolted with brackets to the dumper at one corner -so i can still use it if needed  in the mean time 

dumper can still tip fully ,pole end is close to ground when tipped 

 It lifts  every stone i have tried so far with no bending or even flexing

average granite stone size  I have been moving about is 700mm x 350m x 350mm. the capping stones for my big long wall.

taking down wall to repair and rebuilding with morter ,not just dry  

  so far 12t of sand 70bags of cement  and only about half way 

will post pictures at some point 

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12 minutes ago, scottishjohn said:

average granite stone size  I have been moving about is 700mm x 350m x 350mm

 

2750kg/m3 granite = 235kg - the same weight as 1m3 of snow, or about the weight of a mature pig.

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i gave it a real test today and moved a tote bag of sand  --no problem 

18 hours ago, Radian said:

 

2750kg/m3 granite = 235kg - the same weight as 1m3 of snow, or about the weight of a mature pig.

certainly a lot more than a 70year old and his  wife can lift off and then replace onto the repaired wall

LOL

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2 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said:

Have you got a digger, make a pair of timber tongs for a mini digger, short bit of chain and tongs. 

no I don,t and tongs would neever grip securly a 2-300kg odd shape stone .

slings are working fine 

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