ToughButterCup Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 This is the suggested build up of our floor (from the slab upwards ). Because the architect has a cruel sense of humour he has specified German stuff ... again. Achtis Technical This is how it goes; And you can bet my bottom dollar that it'll be more expensive than necessary All I want (ahem ...well we want... ) is a warmish floor. And we've got 25mm to do it in. In the words of @Construction Channel, 'How hard can it be?' We'll be using a bit of electricity to walk on, and we'll have grand kids doing their best to scratch the Hell out of it, not to mention the odd dropped angle grinder. Why oh why does the world need so many flooring products? (Sorry, 'solutions') Comments; suggestions, please. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Is this electric over a cold slab ..?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Construction Channel Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 What areas of the house is this in? What look are you going for? Why didnt you you go for wet UFH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 2 hours ago, PeterW said: Is this electric over a cold slab ..?? Yes. 2 hours ago, Construction Channel said: Why didnt you you go for wet UFH? Because we don't need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Construction Channel Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Just now, recoveringacademic said: Because we don't need it. fair enough, and the other questions? are you looking for multiple finishes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 No Ed, just plain vanilla, grandchild and fogey proof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Construction Channel Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 very interesting.... have you considered amtico / karndean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 So this is tile warming not room warming ...?? 25mm to play with ..?? 10mm tile 2mm adhesive 6mm SLC with heat wire in it 6mm thermal board leaves you a mil to account for floor unevenness .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliG Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 It appears that you don't need the self levelling compound. You can go down to 4mm thick with Marmox and 6mm with ProWarm, but obviously the insulation gets better as it gets thicker. They cost around £10 a square metre depending on thickness etc. It would be difficult to get under 25mm with tiles, maybe with 4mm board. I'd probably go for vinyl. It is thinner so you can get a bit more insulation under it. It is warmer and more comfortable underfoot and probably less slippery, although you can get tiles that are less slippery also. There here will be no grout to maintain and people cannot drop stuff on it and crack it. It is easier to clean. Properly fitted, vinyl can look just as good if not better than tiles. Tiles probably last longer and are more durable from general wear and tear. http://www.theunderfloorheatingstore.com/media/wysiwyg/downloads/insulation-boards-manual.pdf https://www.tilefixdirect.com/pdf/marmox-multiboard-floors-adhesive.pdf Having written this up I should probably cancel my bathroom tile orders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) You could use Vinyl tiles, or Flotex tiles. Both are available in a large range of patterns and suitable for all rooms, and will help with a warm floor feeling. Flotex is also perhaps better for kids to play on. And they clean under the tap. F Edited May 17, 2017 by Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 Debbie wants what @Mikey_1980 did in this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitpipe Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Ian, that's pretty much what we have in our bathrooms, 6mm cheap tile backer board (which is insulated). We got the mats from ebay, (lowest w/m2 we could find) latex and then and tiled on top - was pretty much 25mm from subfloor to top - I know this as the tiles are flush with the 25mm shower tray in one room. Have you looked at microscreed? gives the polished concrete floor look but is only 2-3mm thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 Folks, thank you. Since applying for PP, I have already worn out one Chromebook on 'Tinternet. By the end of this I'll not be surprised to have gone through another. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, Bitpipe said: [...] I know this as the tiles are flush with the 25mm shower tray in one room. [...] Hugh, are you saying you've found a shower tray exactly 25mm ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 1 hour ago, recoveringacademic said: Hugh, are you saying you've found a shower tray exactly 25mm ? 22mm tray plus 3mm adhesive isn't unusual - and ya get 25mm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 OK, so how do you achieve a perfect seal between the top of the tray an the surrounding floor? (i.e. FFL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitpipe Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 10 hours ago, PeterW said: 22mm tray plus 3mm adhesive isn't unusual - and ya get 25mm... This is the one we used - Lusso Stone 25mm, 1700x800 I think but they do then in all different dimensions. https://www.lussostone.com/showers-c6/shower-trays-c13/modern-low-profile-polished-stone-resin-rectangle-shower-tray-all-sizes-p851 We created a walk in style shower with glass along the long edge and entry on the narrow side. I sealed the shower screen glass direct to the tray itself, to do this we cut the side alu profile 2mm proud and sat the glass on spacers when fitting, sealed up to each spacer and when the SikaFlex had gone off, removed the spacers and filled the gaps. Used Nick's bombproof instructions for seating the shower tray also. Used an 8mm alu profile on the vertical side sikaflexed to the wall and a steel bar to opposite wall for stability and then just grouted the tiles as normal - its not a wet room but looks like one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ferdinand Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Smooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooth ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Ferdinand said: Smooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooth ! Ditto... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitpipe Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Thanks, completely by accident too as the inclusion of electric UFH was a last minute (i.e. we had already tacked pb everywhere) decision but that generated the increased levels. Our floor guy did need to make a small ramp of latex outside the bathroom so that the oak floor in the hall was flush with the tile, it's very subtle and you'd never notice. I'll take it as a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 That's a very good price too ..!!! Set into the floor, it looks the dogs danglies..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 47 minutes ago, Bitpipe said: [...] I'll take it as a win. Yeah, but now you have to keep it clean....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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