Ferdinand Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 30 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: Maybe a nice hand-carved egg and dart moulding around the trailing edge of each tread would look nice I say get a plunge saw and make the treads into fretwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted July 17, 2016 Author Share Posted July 17, 2016 I was debating some non slip angles for the leading edges but damn expensive. Was even debating asking my fabricator to knock some up in 3mm aluminium Durbar. Either that or a tin of Ronseal non slip decking paint which really does do what it says on the tin.....but is 'kin expensive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 28 minutes ago, Onoff said: I was debating some non slip angles for the leading edges but damn expensive. Was even debating asking my fabricator to knock some up in 3mm aluminium Durbar. Either that or a tin of Ronseal non slip decking paint which really does do what it says on the tin.....but is 'kin expensive! What's wrong with SBR and pavior sand mixed together ..??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 22 minutes ago, PeterW said: What's wrong with SBR and pavior sand mixed together ..??! He wasted the last of his SBR by leaving it in an open jug. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted July 17, 2016 Author Share Posted July 17, 2016 Got x2 5L tins of black non slip floor paint I scored a while back thinking about it.....wonder if that would work? Interesting about the sand in SBR idea though. I remember years back being told you could add "sand" to normal floor paint. Never tried it but back then without knowing otherwise I'd have added builder's sand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Could you just use wire mesh as they do on rural plank bridges? Ferdinand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 9 hours ago, Ferdinand said: Could you just use wire mesh as they do on rural plank bridges? Ferdinand Not a bad shout that, I could get some stainless mesh easy enough. Ideally I want something that the won't hurt their backsides on if they slip coming down the spiral stairs. I think a "NO RUNNING UP STEPS" sign is a must. Saying that the geometry of the staircase just "works" which still surprises me. It's dead easy to walk up and down. Not saying BC would be happy with it of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney12 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 16 hours ago, Nickfromwales said: Maybe a nice hand-carved egg and dart moulding around the trailing edge of each tread would look nice I was thinking more some of those sworskofski (spelt entirely wrong!!!) crystals inset into the treads for anti-slip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Round here they use chickenwire on plank bridges.. Another option would be aluminium tread plate, which looks cool. You need the tools to cut 3mm metaul, but I guess most of us have that. Cost is about £75 per sqm. Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 I'm more worried tbh about protecting the front top edge of each step. One to mitigate wear issues as these are only made from scaffold boards and more importantly to stop the kids slipping and them coming down on a hard edge even thought there's a very nominal radius on it. I was mulling over putting say a 1/2" radius on the front edge then gluing some sort of ribbed rubber sheet to the step with impact adhesive. Something like this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RIBBED-RUBBER-MATTING-3MM-THICK-ANTI-SLIP-NON-SLIP-BLACK-VARIOUS-SHEET-SIZES-/261369314008?var=&hash=item3cdad33ad8:m:mi2mUPKGLd3BO0huWDt07NA I do have some old HV mats but they're much thicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 (edited) The roof..... I made the roof out of some seconds, 18mm sheets. Not the best to start with I cut to size, treated with Creocote and let dry. I then put on ONE layer of sand felt.....and never got round to finishing it off as I tend to do (or is that NOT do?) Anyway.....now I've finally concreted in the last two 4"x4" legs need I to get the roof sorted. Before I was reluctant to climb on top tbh. Unfortunately as I've left it so long the sand felt got torn, ripped some more etc leaving the top bit of ply exposed to the elements. This has started to warp I've just noticed. Thinking that as the top of the felt is gone water might have (will have?) got under the lower pieces of felt. Will this hot weather dry it out? Not sure whether to rip off all the felt and redo in 2-layers of felt or maybe get some of that UV "not felt" shed covering someone was on about a while back, here or on eBuild I'm not sure (anyone remember?). I can see I might need to replace that bit of blown ply, it'll be OSB I use to repair it. Cheers Edited July 18, 2016 by Onoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney12 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I'd be tempted just to leave it as it is and put some onduline roofing sheets straight over the top. Then a couple of new facia boards and Bob's your granny. No ripping out what's there and it will last a lifetime. Somethng like: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262522170307 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 Tbh I'm thinking EPDM: https://www.rubber4roofs.co.uk/shop/shedcover-rubber-membrane-1-20mm/ This WAS the other stuff I think Jeremy mentioned but I need bigger/longer sheets (so maybe not his supplier). Pretty sure there was one place who would join the sheets for you: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Good-alternative-to-shed-roofing-felt-uv-resistant-olive-reinforced-pvc-/282099723947?var=&hash=item41ae742eab:m:m81vLOwJAemvS5X8MzaeYKQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 Yes, I know, I should be doing the bathroom..... Got the spiral stairs near finished. Rounded the edges and gave a couple of coats of S'fix No Nonsense wood treatment stuff: Got the "handrail" ropes in but not so sure on the knots on the D rings; Bowline on the top and a granny at the mo on the lower rope. Need something I can easily undo and re-tension as required: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney12 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 They look great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Barney12 said: They look great! Thanks. They actually "work" too. Even I, as an adult, can comfortably walk up and down them. Instead of rope for the handrail I did nearly use 20mm MDPE pipe. With a bit of further thought I reckon it would be easy enough to beef up the design for domestic use though I don't imagine BC would be too impressed! Edited July 25, 2016 by Onoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crofter Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 @Tennentslager Would be your man to talk to about EPDM. Re knots, I would either just do a round turn and two half hitches, much easier to get tension on than a bowline, or if you want to really crank it up stick a figure 8 loop a couple of feet from the end and rig it up as a lanyard locked off with half hitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 How are you managing without cross-members or gussets on the main support legs? They're very long, doesn't the whole thing move at all when kids are blasting around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 29 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: How are you managing without cross-members or gussets on the main support legs? They're very long, doesn't the whole thing move at all when kids are blasting around? It's pretty good tbh. There was little a bit of a sway (but not much) which was why I was anxious to get those last two galvanised feet on and concreted in. It's also got the staircase one end and the yellow foam wrapped pole the other, both concreted in. Next step is to remove the original decked area with all the junk on. Then it'll have a concrete base on a DPM and be framed out between the uprights. I'll probably do X bracing in the same 4"x4" as the uprights. Door on the left. Maybe the "walls" atop a little dwarf wall or one block high. Then breathable membrane and cladding to match the top. Should give me a 10'x5' shed for "stuff". NOT the "downstairs" my little 'un wanted! Mower lean to on the rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Lol. You're so unfair ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Crofter said: @Tennentslager Would be your man to talk to about EPDM. Re knots, I would either just do a round turn and two half hitches, much easier to get tension on than a bowline, or if you want to really crank it up stick a figure 8 loop a couple of feet from the end and rig it up as a lanyard locked off with half hitches. Or you could use an agricultural wire tensioner or turnbuckle. Or build the little darlings a capstan wheel so the big one can enslave the little one. Ferdinand Edited July 26, 2016 by Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 Years back when it was just four posts and a platform I rigged a cantilvered beam with a manual hand winch for my boy. The beam was at where the eave level is now. It was meant for them to lift buckets of sand! Next thing I looked up the garden and him and his mate had looped the wire rope around the yellow roof of his old Little Tikes car and were taking it in turns to lift each other about 10' off the deck. Worrying as the car roof was only held on by self tappers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennentslager Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 EPDM...cheapish...dead easy. ..100% finish and forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Construction Channel Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 On 25 July 2016 at 10:43, Onoff said: Yes, I know, I should be doing the bathroom..... Got the spiral stairs near finished. Rounded the edges and gave a couple of coats of S'fix No Nonsense wood treatment stuff: that is a very nice job you have made there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 38 minutes ago, Tennentslager said: EPDM...cheapish...dead easy. ..100% finish and forget. & things don't eat it? Got a poxy pigeon taken up residence on the ridge..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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