Pocster Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I'm going to have a suspended ceiling below these 2 steels. So somehow I need to fix plasterboard ( or something ) to them . How should I fix to the steel though?. I assume a timber batton is what I need. But I can't see drilling the steel to be fun ( also can only bolt from one side not the other ). Presumably there's a standard method to do this???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 10, 2022 Author Share Posted January 10, 2022 Might want to even tile these returns - so assume glueing battons for tile backer board not really ideal.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Shotfire timber with Hilti gun. Cheap to hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 TechFast screws are designed to fix light timber frames to steel and will self drill the steel. They take a Torx driver. Even a girlie DeWalt cordless should be able to put them in ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtop Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Onoff said: TechFast screws are designed to fix light timber frames to steel and will self drill the steel. They take a Torx driver. Even a girlie DeWalt cordless should be able to put them in ? We did exactly this and used loads of them. Advice is to pre drill with a 3 or 4 mm bit as it helps these go in really easy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 18 hours ago, redtop said: We did exactly this and used loads of them. Advice is to pre drill with a 3 or 4 mm bit as it helps these go in really easy Yeah I struggled with these. I will pre drill a hole and test I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 19 hours ago, Mr Punter said: Shotfire timber with Hilti gun. Cheap to hire. Have to look that up - but sounds fun; like a firearm - what could possible go wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I drilled a 6mm hole and used 7.5mm concrete screws. A bit overkill tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 Found some of these . So will give them a try . Says “ specialist “ on them - I am certainly special ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtop Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 10 hours ago, pocster said: Found some of these . So will give them a try . Says “ specialist “ on them - I am certainly special ! End is painted black so goto be good! Pre drill makes em perfic. I bought a big multi pack of cheap drill bits from screwfix or toolstation, all different sizes don't last that long but dead cheap and went through steel a fair few times before going blunt. Something like a pack of 100 for not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simplysimon Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 if you're drilling steel, and i know you love the firm which comes in a fetching shade of black and yellow, buy their hss drill bits. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154592266014?hash=item23fe6ac71e:g:HoYAAOSwn41hLqWK wouldn't buy their tools but these are superb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 7 hours ago, Simplysimon said: if you're drilling steel, and i know you love the firm which comes in a fetching shade of black and yellow, buy their hss drill bits. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154592266014?hash=item23fe6ac71e:g:HoYAAOSwn41hLqWK wouldn't buy their tools but these are superb +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 I used those Easy Drive screws to affix 9mm ply to my steel, wall hung Geberit frame. I didn't pre drill from memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 10 hours ago, Simplysimon said: if you're drilling steel, and i know you love the firm which comes in a fetching shade of black and yellow, buy their hss drill bits. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154592266014?hash=item23fe6ac71e:g:HoYAAOSwn41hLqWK wouldn't buy their tools but these are superb And they are extreme !!! Which means they are really really good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtop Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, pocster said: And they are extreme !!! Which means they are really really good Nooo, too much money for something that will blunt anyway. Go for these and chuck em when blunt. Erbauer Straight Shank HSS Drill Bit Trade Pack 150 Pieces | Drill Bit Sets | Screwfix.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 32 minutes ago, redtop said: Nooo, too much money for something that will blunt anyway. Go for these and chuck em when blunt. Erbauer Straight Shank HSS Drill Bit Trade Pack 150 Pieces | Drill Bit Sets | Screwfix.com Chalk and cheese. Those DeWalt ones are superb (& I can't stand DeWalt). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 39 minutes ago, redtop said: Nooo, too much money for something that will blunt anyway. Go for these and chuck em when blunt. Erbauer Straight Shank HSS Drill Bit Trade Pack 150 Pieces | Drill Bit Sets | Screwfix.com 39 minutes ago, redtop said: Nooo, too much money for something that will blunt anyway. Go for these and chuck em when blunt. Erbauer Straight Shank HSS Drill Bit Trade Pack 150 Pieces | Drill Bit Sets | Screwfix.com They are blue ! Also from previous experience. If I buy the cheaper option and struggle everyone will say it’s my fault for buying cheap crap . If I buy the expensive option and I struggle then it’s just me being crap . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 12 hours ago, Simplysimon said: if you're drilling steel, and i know you love the firm which comes in a fetching shade of black and yellow, buy their hss drill bits. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154592266014?hash=item23fe6ac71e:g:HoYAAOSwn41hLqWK wouldn't buy their tools but these are superb Purchased Now I have EXTREME drill bits and SPECIALIST screws . If I did this for a living I could charge triple just because of that . “Black and Yellow makes you mellow “ Mr.Dewalt “Blue is poo “ Mr. Makitashite ( Japanese I believe ) Erbaur - similar to Fischer Price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtop Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 3 hours ago, pocster said: Purchased Now I have EXTREME drill bits and SPECIALIST screws . If I did this for a living I could charge triple just because of that . “Black and Yellow makes you mellow “ Mr.Dewalt “Blue is poo “ Mr. Makitashite ( Japanese I believe ) Erbaur - similar to Fischer Price Well if I knew you had money to burn ? agree the ones I listed are crap, but I was suprised they drilled well for a half dozen holes then its knackered. And they seemed to come with a shed load of 3 to 5mm sizes which were fine as pilot holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, redtop said: Well if I knew you had money to burn ? agree the ones I listed are crap, but I was suprised they drilled well for a half dozen holes then its knackered. And they seemed to come with a shed load of 3 to 5mm sizes which were fine as pilot holes. Use cutting compound when you drill and you'll at least double the life. A smear on hacksaw & bandsaw blades helps there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Onoff said: A smear on hacksaw & bandsaw blades helps there too. I usually end up with blood on mine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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