Dee Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I'm clueless here! I have some lead sheet, I'm laying a traditional tiled valley and I assume there must be some lead under the first row of valley /tile and a half to create water run off ? Advice please... Images would be even better.... Sorry to be a pain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Lead Sheet Association is your friend..!! http://leadsheet.co.uk/home/lsa-pocket-guide/pitched-valleys/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted April 12, 2017 Author Share Posted April 12, 2017 Good resource but Doesn't 't really tell me what I need to know. Can I cut soakers out of dpc with the upstand fitting under the cladding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryE Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 It is important that you have the right profile, and it particular the side hips -- normally the slaters will just run some battening parallel to the valley centre. This hip both provides side support for the tile edge and gap closer to stop cross winds getting under the slates, but also act as valley sides to contain any run-off in the valley centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted April 12, 2017 Author Share Posted April 12, 2017 I'm using concrete plain tiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryE Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Doesn't matter. You still need a hipped channel profile. Also don't cut the tiles in situ. Mark them, move them, cut them; then replace and fix them. If you try to do this in situ, then you will invariably cut through the lead / alu / GRP (whatever you use for your valley) and have leaks as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted April 12, 2017 Author Share Posted April 12, 2017 Hipped channel? Can you expand please .... I'm a complete amature and feeling my way through this particular roof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Soakers are normally aluminium, they cost pennies to buy and you can bend the corner over to stop them moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted April 12, 2017 Author Share Posted April 12, 2017 So just to get you in the loop... I'm building a hipped roof dormer. The cheeks will be clad with hardie planks. I imagine the ply, battons and cladding will overhang the tiles on the main roof below... Will I still need soakers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryE Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Dee, look at the link that Peter gave you. The cross-section of the valley is a shallow V at the centre but near the top are valley walls maybe 25mm height that are vertical. This jutty-out bit is what I meant by a "hip" The concrete tiles overhang this wall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 55 minutes ago, Dee said: So just to get you in the loop... I'm building a hipped roof dormer. The cheeks will be clad with hardie planks. I imagine the ply, battons and cladding will overhang the tiles on the main roof below... Will I still need soakers? I would think so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassanclan Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I don't think anyone is quite grasping this, the link is: http://leadsheet.co.uk/home/lsa-pocket-guide/mitred-hip-and-valley-soakers/ follow the instructions for mitred valley soakers. You'll need some 9" code 3 lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted April 12, 2017 Author Share Posted April 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, bassanclan said: I don't think anyone is quite grasping this, the link is: http://leadsheet.co.uk/home/lsa-pocket-guide/mitred-hip-and-valley-soakers/ follow the instructions for mitred valley soakers. You'll need some 9" code 3 lead. I've read the link... Is it the same process for valley tiles as I'm not doing a mitred valley. A roofer told me to put lead under just the first two valley tiles but wrapping around to tiles either side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassanclan Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Yes, same process and he's right just bottom two tiles. Its not really necessary to wraparound the tile either side, but your soaker should extend beyond your valley tile and have a welt if you're not wrapping it around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted April 12, 2017 Author Share Posted April 12, 2017 28 minutes ago, bassanclan said: Yes, same process and he's right just bottom two tiles. Its not really necessary to wraparound the tile either side, but your soaker should extend beyond your valley tile and have a welt if you're not wrapping it around. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share Posted April 16, 2017 Quick visual on the roof...just the ridge to do and it's done!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Liking the diy roof ladder...! You should be really proud of the finish on that - looks brilliant ..! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share Posted April 16, 2017 56 minutes ago, PeterW said: Definitely a team effort! Disappointed that I had to compromise on using clay tile and a half but I was totally defeated in my search for concrete... So long as it keeps the rain out. Enjoyed using lead, a new challenge met Thanks for everyone's input, could not have done it without this forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassanclan Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 looks good and a nice bit of trellis to hang on your garden wall when you are done too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Yup, not a job I'd have been envying, but looks better than some I've seen done by builders ( on their mothers side ) round here. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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