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Bricklaying Prices

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Just thought I’d post this to perhaps help those working out there budget 

 

I bumped into a friend who runs a bricklaying business Most of the sites in my area (NW) seem to use these middle men for labour 

 

Here’s what he’s paying for site work 

Stacker and tubed mortar and bricks dropped to work area 

£600 Per thousand face work Extra for detail 

£18 m2 block work 

 

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35 minutes ago, nod said:

£18 m2 block work 

so that'll be about £36/m2 down here in the South East then, if we're lucky. 😥

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19 minutes ago, Thorfun said:

so that'll be about £36/m2 down here in the South East then, if we're lucky. 😥

I wouldn’t like to guess 

Perhaps double 

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Down in the south west, brickie I have been recommended and did a house near me has quoted £19 m2 for easy solid block walls (retaining walls) and £21 m2 for external walls including openings / lintels.

This is on a closed area basis, and mortar mixed on site.

Seems reasonable to me

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54 minutes ago, nod said:

I wouldn’t like to guess 

Perhaps double 

I have been quoted £50/m2 for labour and materials for internal block walls, in the SE. spoke to another bricklayer and he said that seemed reasonable. 

 

hope that gives an indication as to how expensive it is down here. feel sorry for my kids as they won't be able to afford to buy their own houses so luckily there'll be enough room for them to stay with us for as long as they need!

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As I say Probably double 

Self builders will always have to pay more than site rates 

Whilst labour rates may seem quite high 

They are simply catching up other industries 

 

Our sons partner has set up for herself as a nail technician First year of trading as a sole trader Her profit was 88k 

But for the COVID she was set to pass that in her second year 

There are plenty of jobs that pay well 

But most involve you being self employed 

no safety net like an employed person 

 

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10 hours ago, Thorfun said:

I have been quoted £50/m2 for labour and materials for internal block walls, in the SE. spoke to another bricklayer and he said that seemed reasonable. 

 

hope that gives an indication as to how expensive it is down here. feel sorry for my kids as they won't be able to afford to buy their own houses so luckily there'll be enough room for them to stay with us for as long as they need!

Kick them out as soon as you can, you will do them no favours keeping them at home. 

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1 hour ago, nod said:

As I say Probably double 

Self builders will always have to pay more than site rates 

Whilst labour rates may seem quite high 

They are simply catching up other industries 

 

Our sons partner has set up for herself as a nail technician First year of trading as a sole trader Her profit was 88k 

But for the COVID she was set to pass that in her second year 

There are plenty of jobs that pay well 

But most involve you being self employed 

no safety net like an employed person 

 

 

£88k 😮

 

What is a nail technician?

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2 minutes ago, Water said:

 

£88k 😮

 

What is a nail technician?

Exactly 

Lots of Huns out there 😂

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1 hour ago, nod said:

Our sons partner has set up for herself as a nail technician First year of trading as a sole trader Her profit was 88k 

 

She must be working her arse off and/or have very good paying clients.

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25 minutes ago, nod said:

Exactly 

Lots of Huns out there 😂

 

Zer iz nussing rong viz being a Hun.  Vot ver you sinking about making zat comment Gary?🤪

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27 minutes ago, ToughButterCup said:

 

Zer iz nussing rong viz being a Hun.  Vot ver you sinking about making zat comment Gary?🤪

 

44 minutes ago, Moonshine said:

 

She must be working her arse off and/or have very good paying clients.

She’s a real good girl 

She trained for 4 years earning about 250 per week working for someone 

It’s amazing how much women spend on nails She’s booked up for months ahead Even before Covid 

 

While building has been ok for me 

I would do Something different given my time again 

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1 minute ago, nod said:

....

I would do Something different given my time again 

 

Mmmm, I can just see you lining up a lass's nails using a laser so the stripes can be correct to less than a mil.....

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12 minutes ago, ToughButterCup said:

 

Mmmm, I can just see you lining up a lass's nails using a laser so the stripes can be correct to less than a mil.....

Me neither 😀

I was thinking more along the lines of bat surveyor 😂

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13 hours ago, Moonshine said:

Down in the south west, brickie I have been recommended and did a house near me has quoted £19 m2 for easy solid block walls (retaining walls) and £21 m2 for external walls including openings / lintels.

This is on a closed area basis, and mortar mixed on site.

Seems reasonable to me

Where in the SW are you Moonshine?

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1 hour ago, Water said:

Bat, trees, archaeology..  

Thad the one 

At our previous build 

He arrived in his car with his own personal reg Yep you’ve guessed it 

Talked about bats for an hour Had a couple of glasses of wine 

Walked around the plot and said “Yep no bats here “ 

 

our contaminated land was even better 

Masses of detail 3D computer generated model 

No site visit 

 

Warranty 

Didnt get out of the car to inspect the foundations 

To muddy 

inspected the roof from the ground

Did say I’d done a grand job

Final inspection 

10 minutes 

Didn't look round the house 

 

I can only dream 😀

 

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1 hour ago, nod said:

Thad the one 

At our previous build 

He arrived in his car with his own personal reg Yep you’ve guessed it 

Talked about bats for an hour Had a couple of glasses of wine 

Walked around the plot and said “Yep no bats here “ 

 

our contaminated land was even better 

Masses of detail 3D computer generated model 

No site visit 

 

Warranty 

Didnt get out of the car to inspect the foundations 

To muddy 

inspected the roof from the ground

Did say I’d done a grand job

Final inspection 

10 minutes 

Didn't look round the house 

 

I can only dream 😀

 


Honestly it's true, to rub salt into the wounds the guy turns up in a brand new top of the range G Wagon over £150ks worth of car.

 

FML. Talk about kicking a guy in the plums when he's down.

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14 hours ago, nod said:

But most involve you being self employed 

no safety net like an employed person 

I think this is the safety net 

 

14 hours ago, nod said:

First year of trading as a sole trader Her profit was 88k

I did a nail technicians course for a laugh about 22 years ago (long story why I did it).

Was pretty easy.

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My old man's on the trowel up your way @nod ain't many weeks he grosses less than 1200 rain or shine. All ready mix and forklift with good health a safety can see why brickies don't want small self build jobs. Not sure about other subbies but he's copped close to 20k in grants this year too I'm guessing he shouldn't really be claiming but you won't convince him of that. Brickies are about the most money orientated trade out there. I think it comes from counting every brick they lay and getting paid accordingly. 

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34 minutes ago, Oz07 said:

My old man's on the trowel up your way @nod ain't many weeks he grosses less than 1200 rain or shine. All ready mix and forklift with good health a safety can see why brickies don't want small self build jobs. Not sure about other subbies but he's copped close to 20k in grants this year too I'm guessing he shouldn't really be claiming but you won't convince him of that. Brickies are about the most money orientated trade out there. I think it comes from counting every brick they lay and getting paid accordingly. 

Yep

A real problem for self builders 

Companies have the continuity and look after there lads and as already cover down time 

The problem with Brickies that are doing private work is They will want to earn the same or more per day as your dad and be used to doing half as much per day 

These are the ones that are available to self builders 

Same with my business plastering and render 

Whilst our earnings of around 450 per day might sound high Two guys will skim a five bed house out in three days 

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On 10/06/2021 at 22:27, Thorfun said:

feel sorry for my kids as they won't be able to afford to buy their own houses

 

They will if they work as bricklayers!

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Wish I’d got in to a trade. 
 

It’s the opportunity to earn that appeals to me as well as reaping what you sow a lot easier than earning your employer a better living.

 

Never too late I suppose, just a lot harder to be able to afford to live on a starting salary whilst learning when you have more outgoings than a youngster. 

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8 hours ago, Oz07 said:

My old man's on the trowel up your way @nod ain't many weeks he grosses less than 1200 rain or shine. All ready mix and forklift with good health a safety can see why brickies don't want small self build jobs. Not sure about other subbies but he's copped close to 20k in grants this year too I'm guessing he shouldn't really be claiming but you won't convince him of that. Brickies are about the most money orientated trade out there. I think it comes from counting every brick they lay and getting paid accordingly. 

It comes because they hate doing the job mate - worst trade to do all day long.

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