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Recessed thermostatic shower valve stupidity


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Stupidity on my part !

 

Instructions 

 

https://www.qssupplies.co.uk/bathroom-furniture-shower-taps/75877.htm#

 

What I don’t understand is what stops the water going in behind the controls ? ( I don’t mean the face plate )

Sure I could stick some sealant around it - to stop water running behind the wall - but it could still go around the spindles .

So white plastic ‘bits ‘ . A square chrome ‘collar ‘ - but that just sits in the hole - no fixing ; silicone again ??

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16 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said:

Up the sides and across the top of the plate, with a bit of clear CT1 and NOT across the bottom. 
The spindles should have thin rubber o rings on them. 

Yeah the plates not the issue .

The only supplied o ring is really small ...

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Took this end off . By making the screw loose I can gain a few mm . But now of course it wobbles !

Is this a ‘standard’ fitting ? ( need a longer one ! ) . Or what’s a good way to ‘pack’ the end out to make it longer ?

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@Nickfromwales got you .

This ensuite valve I can’t move forward without smashing the wall apart ( ain’t going to happen ! ) . 
So can I ‘stick’ something on the end of those spindles to gain 15mm ??

Or anyone got some insane skills to ‘cut’ 15mm off the handles ! ?

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7 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said:

Every day is a school day mate. Tiles off, lick your wounds, put it right, stick tiles back on, go to pub. 
Short cuts always take 3 times longer. Just get it started now, you’ll be finished by tomorrow evening. 

Noooooooooo !

Playing with the main bathroom one ( as it’s easy to adjust ) . Instructions show none of this but hey ....

Black o ring on reverse - this makes sense ! . But the square chrome collar can still turn !

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Don’t think about it. Just do it. 
Damage limitation is paramount, so get the grout out first surrounding the tiles you need to remove, WITHOUT RUSHING AND DAMAGING THE KEEPERS, and grind some Union Jack relief cuts in the ones which are going. Work slowly, and methodically, and use dust sheets galore. 

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1 minute ago, pocster said:

Noooooooooo !

Playing with the main bathroom one ( as it’s easy to adjust ) . Instructions show none of this but hey ....

Black o ring on reverse - this makes sense ! . But the square chrome collar can still turn !

Your call. If this leaks a little, but long term, it’ll wreck the place.

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7 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said:

Your call. If this leaks a little, but long term, it’ll wreck the place.

You mean the bathroom one ?

I can’t see where these o rings sit ( those collars are the only things with a ‘notch’ for something . The collars do have a o ring in them already ( which presumably goes against the spindle shroud ) .

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4 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said:

Yup. Can you get the plates on so they’re both friction fit against the internal o rings of the plate inserts?

The plates should stay on by themselves. 

Ok . The square collar has an internal o ring which does indeed go against the spindle collar . It’s this other o ring I don’t get . Taking it all apart , putting it on the collar ( so it would have a o ring inside and outside ) it won’t fit in the face plate . You can see it’s mega tight 

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