ProDave Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 26 minutes ago, Onoff said: Yes. See the picture below, this bolt goes through a nut on the other side. Tightened equally. Hopefully it's not the big washer on the main flush mechanism. The studs go through the cistern. My money's on it being this: Could be anything, the pan/cistern has sat in the garage for years. (Given me loads more space now (in the garage). I now have room atop the freebie Bosch integrated fridge for even more cr@p! ?) To test the seal of those 2 bolts, place the cistern on a stand of some sort away from the pan, and fill it with water from a bucket and see if they drip. If the don't then it will be the donut leaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 Just now, ProDave said: To test the seal of those 2 bolts, place the cistern on a stand of some sort away from the pan, and fill it with water from a bucket and see if they drip. If the don't then it will be the donut leaking. Yep that's the plan. Taking it off in a mo after a tea break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 Test rig! It's all clean and unchristened! Where the flush sits down through the donut, the pan is recessed: This, the detail under the cistern: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wozza Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) Could the water be passing through the thread of the bolt - its common with basin wastes - the washer seals the nut against the basin but nothing seals the thread. Try PTFE tape on the thread of the bolts - or better still fit another robber washer between the metal washer and the top of the bolt. Edited November 29, 2020 by wozza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) From what I can make out there's two leak points. There's a drip on the end of the LHS bolt. Also coming down the threads of the big, centre, plastic flush assembly. I'll back off tomorrow and reseal. Thinking CT1 on the steel bolts where they pass through the cistern and then Jet Blue Plus on the thread of the plastic. Doesn't appear to be any tracking across the underside of the cistern. I'll do the other bolt too. Poor photo: Geberit it ain't! Edited November 30, 2020 by Onoff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Assuming there is a rubber cone washer on the bolt, pull it out and dry off and full with CT1 then bed it down onto the cistern as they leak down the middle of the rubber cones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 15 hours ago, PeterW said: Assuming there is a rubber cone washer on the bolt, pull it out and dry off and full with CT1 then bed it down onto the cistern as they leak down the middle of the rubber cones. So you reckon in effect stick the cistern to pan? Don't know about that... it'll never come apart thereafter. Thinking to just take the nuts and bolts out then reassemble with CT1 on the threads, under washers etc. Just not sure whether to let it dry for a day before fitting to the pan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 No I mean is there a rubber cone washer in the cistern on the end of the bolt ..?? Bit like this ..?? Good squirt of CT1 down the centre of the cone stops it leaking past the threads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 Exactly as @PeterW said: A good squidge of CT1 between the top washer and rubber cone. Then more CT1 and push it through the hole. Yet more from the other side then the washers and nut. All baby wiped off and left to set. Seemed to centre nicely at 160mm (the pan hole centres). It was definitely leaking down the threads of the flush assembly. Getting the plastic nut off needed a bfo pair of Stilsons. Thinking to reassemble that with lashings of Jet Blue Plus? It'll make it easier for later replacement etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 That flush would be getting the CT1 treatment also ... Mouldings like that are never concentric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 57 minutes ago, PeterW said: That flush would be getting the CT1 treatment also ... Mouldings like that are never concentric. But if the flush ever goes wrong it's a bin job surely? Saying that it'd be easy enough to cut it out I guess... Edited November 30, 2020 by Onoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Nah - you can spin that off.. and besides you said this was temporary so we are expecting that lot out after Christmas !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 Just now, PeterW said: Nah - you can spin that off.. and besides you said this was temporary so we are expecting that lot out after Christmas !! Took a pair of Stilsons to get it off dry as I said. CT1 is is then. ?...you have to put a year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 Bolt fixings, flush pipe and inlet all CT1'd. The bolt fixing, rubber washers are a bit deformed but hey ho, too late now. I'll fill in the morning and if no leaks when I get home get it fitted and the copper feed connected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 Noticeably warmer in the ensuite with the gap round the soil pipe (to the uninsulated eaves) all sealed up properly whereas the old soil pipe position wasn't sealed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 One piece bit of copper: In: (The water marks are from roof leaks). I suppose I should consider myself lucky SWMBO's not fussy... (Ditto the stains under the window. The detailing round that is dire outside). Take the shower apart next I suppose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) SWMBO's wanting the old en suite shower working again as it's so bloody cold in the main bathroom sans heating! First thing is shift all the tools I've got stored in there. Can't see the issue myself! ? Knocked up a couple of shelf units that'll take the upcycled oil containers. They'll either stand upright or attach horizontally to the rafters in the garage. Scored some freebie ply strips pre cut at 220mm. A sanding and some wood stain will make it a bit prettier. ...and back to the en suite! ? Edited January 6, 2021 by Onoff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 10 hours ago, Onoff said: SWMBO's wanting the old en suite shower working again as it's so bloody cold in the main bathroom sans heating! First thing is shift all the tools I've got stored in there. Can't see the issue myself! ? Knocked up a couple of shelf units that'll take the upcycled oil containers. They'll either stand upright or attach horizontally to the rafters in the garage. Scored some freebie ply strips pre cut at 220mm. A sanding and some wood stain will make it a bit prettier. ...and back to the en suite! ? Brrrrrrrr ; cold in this bathroom ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFDIY Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Have I missed something, what's stopping connecting the heating in main bathroom? I've got a temporary setup on my extension running the nabifold through Flexi hoses just to take the chill off, but it's capable of proper heat If I wanted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 1 hour ago, JFDIY said: Have I missed something, what's stopping connecting the heating in main bathroom? I've got a temporary setup on my extension running the nabifold through Flexi hoses just to take the chill off, but it's capable of proper heat If I wanted. Shhhh @Onoff hasn’t told SWMBO he can do that ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 Well I cleared the tools out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav_P Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 On 18/01/2021 at 22:22, Onoff said: Well I cleared the tools out... Christ! There’s actually a shower in that tool cabinet! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 Bloody handy I never got round to gutting the en suite. I'm going to be living in our bedroom on my own for the next however long whilst Covid takes its course and until I test negative. Clearly, it pays to delay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Onoff said: Bloody handy I never got round to gutting the en suite. I'm going to be living in our bedroom on my own for the next however long whilst Covid takes its course and until I test negative. Clearly, it pays to delay! Thought this thread was closed down due to lack of activity. Glad to see it’s been resurrected yet still no work will commence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, pocster said: lack of activity That's my bedroom thread you're thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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