jack Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 42 minutes ago, jack said: Absolute power corrupts absolutely. No. Power is delightful so absolute power is absolutely delightful. Copyright LJK Setright. THat double capital ( <<--- example) is Apple's fault. The very occasional lack of correction is my laziness. F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I blame Apple for most things that are wrong with the tech world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Perhaps we had better get back to topic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stones Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 Yes, let's get back on topic... 8 hours ago, ProDave said: Sorry to say, I think your builders "messed up" here. Our Rationel doors have basically an aluminium theshold bottom plate. As delivered, there is a wooden piece then fixed to the bottom of the door. Our builders removed the supplied wooden piece and then packed up the door after discussing with us the floor make up and finished floor height. The reason for removing the supplied wooden piece was to allow tiles or floor boards to slide under the aluminium threshold. It sounds like your builders didn't discuss this with you? Did they leave the supplied wooden piece still there, or remove it and sit the aluminium threshold straight on the slab? Could you argue it's "their" mistake, and therefore their solution, including any making good to the render etc if they move the whole door and frame up? It's a useful illustration of my builder not being an approved installer (this and another house he built at the same time were the first time he had used Rationel windows) and how things like this can be missed if assumptions are made. IIRC your builder is an approved installer? I can't say it crossed my mind, and clearly not the builders or joiners when we installed, as previously every other door I have fitted (and the builder has fitted) has had a higher threshold meaning this issue didn't come up. The aluminium threshold is straight on the slab. Yes I could argue it's their mistake, but TBH I really don't want to go down the route of moving the door up. Given comments about how challenging it would be to grind down the slab, and having discussed with the builder (who said he would do it if I wanted) I'm going to go with the most straightforward solution of a mat well. We should be able to frame the well on all sides with tile (albeit it will only be a small sliver of visible tile in the door reveal) and finish the edges with a metal trim. It's a compromise, for my wife at least, although I can't say I'm that upset about it, and my thinking is very much in line with @Nickfromwales in how to handle this. I had originally planned for mat wells but was overruled by a higher power... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alphonsox Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 So exactly how do you go about cutting a mat well in a concrete floor ? The tilers are due in a week or so, I may just have time to cut one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I don't think my builders were "approved" by rationell, it's just that they thought to ask about the floor make up, and what the finished floor level would be, and set the doors to that level. If you want to spend a night in the spare room, suggest a sheet of linoleum glued down in the entrance hall will solve all the issues. You can get some that is made to look like tiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Alphonsox said: So exactly how do you go about cutting a mat well in a concrete floor ? The tilers are due in a week or so, I may just have time to cut one. Diamond disk in a Stihl saw and cut a rectangle the size you want. Then do parallel lines across the cut out area an inch apart and a couple of inches deep (assuming you don't have UFH..??) One or two cross cuts then use a cold chisel straight into the cuts to snap the pieces out. Will leave a rough surface but half a bag of leveling compo and you will think it was meant to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alphonsox Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, PeterW said: Diamond disk in a Stihl saw and cut a rectangle the size you want. Then do parallel lines across the cut out area an inch apart and a couple of inches deep (assuming you don't have UFH..??) One or two cross cuts then use a cold chisel straight into the cuts to snap the pieces out. Will leave a rough surface but half a bag of leveling compo and you will think it was meant to be there. Thanks - may have to give this a go when the boss isn't looking. I guess a wall chasing saw would have much the same effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Use a wall chaser and you will get it done in half the time. Can also set the depth for a more accurate cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alphonsox Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Just now, Declan52 said: Use a wall chaser and you will get it done in half the time. Can also set the depth for a more accurate cut. Thought so - and I can get my hands on a chaser with no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Buy a cheap bucket( £1 poundshop )and puncture with a small hole at the bottom so it leaks out on to the cut. Will keep the dust down and the blade cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 +1 to the chaser. Do lots of passes and chip out accordingly. Hire / borrow an industrial Hoover and do it dry, or, if wetting the cut, make 100% sure you have a wet vac to suck the mud out as you go along. Won't be long before your bogged in otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Alphonsox said: Thought so - and I can get my hands on a chaser with no problems. I've a couple you could borrow if you're Kent/London. Tbh I find a garden sprayer the best thing when cutting into a floor.....and a huge extractor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptoe Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 its at the door, open it up, big massive BFO fan and jobs a goodun, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Extraction at the machine would be better imho. The dust going into the door and hinges / locking mechanisms / seals etc would be near impossible to get off / out. @Stones, can you remove the door from its hinges to do this, and mask the hell out of the frame ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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