James94 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Hi all Just looking for some advice on a new temporary water supply we’re having connected, looked around the forum and there are a few Bits from 2016 so not sure if regs have changed much. We are having a tap as close to the boundary as possible so as little digging as possible.Anglian water are going to dig up the road connect a water meter at the property boundary and we have to do the rest. Here are a few pics thar I’ve found are we looking for the same thing? Does anyone have any pics to share and maybe some tips on making box and where to get materials. Looked into this and think this will be best option as we don’t have to organise all the services together we will be able to lay water without any further inspection. Regards. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James94 Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 Just an update, copied what TerryE has done but have had to put it in a lockable box with insulation. Still not sure about the stop valve and the double check valve in a chamber, just have to wait to see what he says at inspection. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomusername Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) I’m building two houses side by side but completely different phases, and need a temporary building supply ASAP, not least so that I can move on site into a caravan. I’ve got a quote from Anglian Water for both connections to be done, at the same time, as there is a necessity for complete road closure. They will connect both into a single point at a double manifold meter arrangement on the boundary of one of the plots. I will end up paying an extra chunk if I have the connections done at different times as they will have to close the road again. I planned to run one pipe in a trench as far as practical along the side boundary to a standpipe arrangement similar to those shown above (very useful details thanks ?) towards the rear of the plot so that this can then eventually be easily diverted inside when the house there is built. I have assumed that I will be allowed to T off this pipe to feed a caravan near the frontage, rather than have to feed all the way to the standpipe and then back all the way to the caravan? Now I’m not so sure. ? Secondly; The future supply for the other plot I will run a pipe along the front boundary and then around the edge to a sensible point for future connection to the house that will hopefully be there in a couple of years. The second (non-idiot) I spoke to at Anglian Water helpfully told me that I would not need to be billed for this second connection until it is in full use - they will fit a trickle supply. However I’m not clear as to how I should terminate this temporarily unused supply. Can I just stop-end it? Presumably not underground in case of back feed contamination. But I could leave a stub poking out of the ground and lag it sufficiently? I’d rather not have to go to the trouble of a second boxed standpipe that I have no need to use... Thanks! Edited October 19, 2020 by Randomusername Missing words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, Randomusername said: Can I just stop-end it? Presumably not underground in case of back feed contamination Yes, just a cap-end. Back feed contamination can only happen if the pipe is made off to an openable fitting like a stopcock. If it cannot be opened, like a cap end cannot, and you have used a WRAS approved cap end, then there should be no issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomusername Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) @James94 - can you tell me where the specification diagram in the first post in this thread came from please? Anglian Water have supplied me with a much less onerous spec for my standpipe! I’ll see if I can attach it here. 2020-10-16_02-32-57%7eTemporary_Building_Supplies.pdf Edited October 23, 2020 by Randomusername Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James94 Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 This was a photo which i took from a sheet he brought out his van, looks like your drawing is out of date. Regards. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomusername Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 On 25/10/2020 at 20:41, James94 said: This was a photo which i took from a sheet he brought out his van, looks like your drawing is out of date. Regards. James It was supplied to me very recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James94 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 It’s from 2010? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomusername Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, James94 said: It’s from 2010? They sent it to me via Inflow last week. Very odd Have you had the inspection done yet? Edited October 28, 2020 by Randomusername Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James94 Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 Yeah he came round yesterday to inspect it and said it was all ok, there is no need for the double check valve and stop tap that is shown in the diagram above. They just connect to the end of our pipe, he said something about a small chamber to gain access to the connection valve at a later date when we switch over from temporary supply or we could just bury it our choice. regards. James was looking at the date on your picture says 2010 but maybe that was just the design date. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomusername Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 @James94 - sorry for all the questions - did they insist on the hose thread being removed from the tap? I don’t mind doing so as I have a used tap I found which I can file off - but I’d rather not as I’d have to replace it with a threaded one later! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomusername Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) Spent the afternoon making a standpipe enclosure from some offcuts of marine ply, and scrap wood... (It’s not finished yet!) Edited November 8, 2020 by Randomusername 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James94 Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 Looking good, main thing is is only temporary so use owt you have lying around. No never said owt about the tap, it was just the cheapest from Screwfix, end unscrews. Regards. James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC45 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 how big is this standpipe? My temp box was a fraction of this size! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 minute ago, CC45 said: how big is this standpipe? My temp box was a fraction of this size! Presumably the pan and bog roll holder will be going in later! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC45 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 along with a nice bathroom unit and mirror... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomusername Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, CC45 said: how big is this standpipe? My temp box was a fraction of this size! The box ended up exactly the same size as the offcuts of marine ply I was given, for obvious reasons... once you start trimming down already odd shaped bits of wood, things get increasingly wonky... I have to point out that the picture was taken from a very low angle due to glare from the security light. There’s possibly just about enough room to house a pixie in a Beefeater costume? Edited November 8, 2020 by Randomusername Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC45 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 a tall pixie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomusername Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 There’s been a fair amount of unkind references to the size of my standpipe housing, without having any reference to scale. With that in mind I post the following image showing that I barely even fit inside it with the door shut! Therefore I struggle to see how my bricklayer will ever manage to use it for shelter, particularly when I’ve put in a shelf for the kettle? ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 50 minutes ago, Randomusername said: Therefore I struggle to see how my bricklayer will ever manage to use it for shelter, particularly when I’ve put in a shelf for the kettle? ? Won't be room for a shelf once the table and four chairs are in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 did similar to @James94, dug the trench where I wanted it, i cut a scaff plank in half then pushed it into the ground at the end of the trench with the digger bucket to make a post. Brought the pipe up to it and build the lock box to the scaff plank. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomusername Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 So if you trim a fair bit off along the split, it’s possible to get 28mm x 13mm thickness pipe insulation into a 63mm duct, and just about leave space for a 25mm MDPE water pipe. Tight though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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