Onoff Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Morning, @Nickfromwales, you awake/sober yet? ? I've a WC bodge to fix. Bathroom extension on an 1860s ish terrace. I think the modern WC goes into what would have been the clay of the old outside WC. From what I can see the old clay bend pretty much butts up against the underside of the floor tiles: There's a hole been made in the tile. Pretty good tbh but a tad oval. Into that a pan connector has been forced. It wasn't a good fit. Plan as it stands is to drill a bit of wood as a template then position over that oval hole and make it exactly 100mm dia so the hole in the tile actually lines up better with the top of the clay bend. Then to fit the short McAlpine pan connector on the left with a good dose of CT1 all round the flutes. Thereafter take the L shaped McAlpine pan connector, cut the flutes section off and push that into the one in the floor. Any better ideas? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Is the issue the oval hole left ..?? If so, fit the McAlpine long leg into the hole. Silicone the gap around the tile and then fit a pipe collar over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, PeterW said: Is the issue the oval hole left ..?? If so, fit the McAlpine long leg into the hole. Silicone the gap around the tile and then fit a pipe collar over the top. Sorry, yes, oval hole left. As it stands a bitch to get the fluted "anything" down there. Hence I'm about to true up the hole and give a tad more room in the tile to play with. Great shout ref the pipe collar. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 Further pic. The clay bend starts so high up I don't think the McAlpine long pan connector would work as the flutes are fixed and don't slide up and down the pipe. Only about 70mm of "straight" pipe and that's as rough as inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 You can get them with rubber fins that move up the connector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, PeterW said: You can get them with rubber fins that move up the connector Yep. I've had the Floplast ones before but I don't think they're as good quality. Looks like your idea will be spot on the. Finished floor to centre of poo pipe on the pan is 190mm. Finished floor to centre of McAlpine fitting is non. 240mm. So all the fluted section will be below/flush with the tiles. Can I add the collar afterwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Yeh but double check the collar diameter as that pipe looks to be about 90mm..?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 McAlpine do a flange to fit but it needs fitting before the pipe is put on to the pan https://www.plumbers-mate-sales.co.uk/mcalpine-90mm-pan-connector-pipe-wall-flange-wc17-90---40005088-5764-p.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, PeterW said: McAlpine do a flange to fit but it needs fitting before the pipe is put on to the pan https://www.plumbers-mate-sales.co.uk/mcalpine-90mm-pan-connector-pipe-wall-flange-wc17-90---40005088-5764-p.asp Cheers. That's the one but I need today. I'm going to fit everything up and either do a super silicone jib with the Fugi tools or buy a collar later, cut in half and silicone in place. Might even 3D print one in 2 halves and spray gloss white. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 Both of these McAlpine flange bits are a bitch to get in to the 100mm, now round, hole even. Going to get a Floplast one and try that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Drop the rubber flange in boiling water for 10 mins and then try. They deform easily and then you can just push them in. You can buy collars on eBay and Amazon - search 90mm pipe collar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 And perhaps use plumbers lube (except where planning to add sealer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) Only just read the last two comments ref hot water etc! Couldn't have anyway as no power here. Gas/leccy off. Went and got a Floplast one. Went in seemingly fine with a bit of silicone spray (I did try that on the McAlpine ones). Forever White in the gap where it goes through the tile and redid where wall meets floor as best as. Will 3D print a 2 piece collar later. Pan down to the floor with 50mm long 10dia Fischer plugs then M6x90 st/st screws. Gone round the base with that new BT1 after cleaning with Multisolve. Cheers for the help. Edited August 30, 2020 by Onoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 In a similar situation I ended up with a hybrid. I had a Flopast pan connector where the bit on the pan fell apart. I replaced it with the McAlpine, which has a much better pan part, but was too long, so I cut it and used the rubber finned part from the dud flopast connector. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 hour ago, ProDave said: In a similar situation I ended up with a hybrid. I had a Flopast pan connector where the bit on the pan fell apart. I replaced it with the McAlpine, which has a much better pan part, but was too long, so I cut it and used the rubber finned part from the dud flopast connector. Now that you mention it I half remember this! I did have a Floplast one at home, same as I ended up buying (along with the 2 McAlpine ones?) but was miles from home. Yep the Floplast is crap. Dry fitted first, well attempted to and it pushed the white rubber out of its seat. Had to prise the end cap off, refit then use silicone spray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Onoff said: Only just read the last two comments ref hot water etc! Couldn't have anyway as no power here. Gas/leccy off. Went and got a Floplast one. Went in seemingly fine with a bit of silicone spray (I did try that on the McAlpine ones). Forever White in the gap where it goes through the tile and redid where wall meets floor as best as. Will 3D print a 2 piece collar later. Pan down to the floor with 50mm long 10dia Fischer plugs then M6x90 st/st screws. Gone round the base with that new BT1 after cleaning with Multisolve. Cheers for the help. Ok ! CT1 was the do everything . Now BT1 !? - what’s the difference??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, pocster said: Ok ! CT1 was the do everything . Now BT1 !? - what’s the difference??? @wozza mentioned it the other week. Local BM has it so thought I'd try it. The white is supposed to not yellow. Smells different to CT1. More like regular silicone in its application imo. Tooled fine with the Fugi tools and excess cleaned off with baby wipes. https://www.ct1.com/our-products/bt1/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Onoff said: @wozza mentioned it the other week. Local BM has it so thought I'd try it. The white is supposed to not yellow. Smells different to CT1. More like regular silicone in its application imo. Tooled fine with the Fugi tools and excess cleaned off with baby wipes. https://www.ct1.com/our-products/bt1/ Tastes better ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, pocster said: Tastes better ? Christ don't eat it, I tried and it sets inside you. Had to have an op to sort it... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Onoff said: Christ don't eat it, I tried and it sets inside you. Had to have an op to sort it... Filth !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 58 minutes ago, pocster said: Filth !!!! Why has this not been deleted ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, pocster said: Why has this not been deleted ?? It's just a forum member... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Onoff said: It's just a forum member... You mean a dick ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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