Guest Alphonsox Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Just a quick note - The Switch linked to by Peter is a 100MBs unit, so not as fast as the Gigabit switches referred to above (hence the price). Oh and if you are considering IP cameras then PoE (Power over Ethernet) switches may be of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, Alphonsox said: Just a quick note - The Switch linked to by Peter is a 100MBs unit, so not as fast as the Gigabit switches referred to above (hence the price). Oh and if you are considering IP cameras then PoE (Power over Ethernet) switches may be of interest. Christ on a bike. . For gaming, I take it I'll "need" the GB switch? Only want to buy it once . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alphonsox Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 48 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: Christ on a bike. . For gaming, I take it I'll "need" the GB switch? Only want to buy it once . Almost certainly not - For anything that is going across the internet your internet connection will be the limiting factor not your network or switches. Where having a Gigabit switch helps is if you are moving large chucks of data around your network, streaming high resolution video from a PC to a TV for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Hmmm ... I sort of agree with @Alphonsox but experience tells me that a PSx or EggsBox will be limited by the speed of the internet, not the speed of the local connections unless he is gaming against a sibling ...?? POE switches can be had for silly money too - a lot have 2/4 Gigabit ports on them so if it was a real need you could use those for the high speed stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Oh and I found out yesterday the SkyQ to SkyQ mini connection on wired is 100Mps so won't use Gig even for HD video streaming ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 If you have a super fast internet and the highest speed home network going then who is your kid going to blame when some 9 year old Mexican beats him 5-0 on FIFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vfrdave Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nickfromwales said: Thinking about the camera idea, I'm also looking to approach the guy that made the PC I got for my boy and having a house PC done, which would run 24/7, and have that recording. That a good idea or am I better off with a dedicated cctv recorder of some other magic beans. ? I want the house PC to connect to my main / other tv's as a film bank Ever considered a NAS box with redundant harddrives for resilience, these can operate your cctv and act as a local datastore for streaming media etc. Synology are a great brand but others are available. Edited December 22, 2016 by vfrdave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Don't you really need dedicated NAS drives (e.g WD red/purple) if they're going to be on 24/7? I did start a Pi based NAS project to sit under the telly in an old DVD player enclosure. Still "ongoing"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Most modern NAS units power down when they are not working so you can use pretty much anything in them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptoe Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I just have a FNAS using an old raid1 PC I got donated running Ubuntu server, been going for near 5 years now nonstop with no.crashes BTW, if you do get a cctv DVR sans HDD, a cheap source of proper video HDD is an old sky+HD box, Simply remove HDD and format before putting into dvr. @Onoff Will do you a picture later when I get home, my routers are mostly Huawei, the Chinese hacker ones so the Chinese government can see my porn,,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 You can install Synology DSM on an old pc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 hour ago, PeterW said: POE switches can be had for silly money too - a lot have 2/4 Gigabit ports on them so if it was a real need you could use those for the high speed stuff. Right ... this is a Cisco Catalyst 500 managed PoE switch - 24 port and you can buy these for less than £30 on the 'bay all day. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371819484580 It has a web based interface and you can create a VLAN for gaming, one for CCTV and one for other traffic etc in the space of minutes. They are designed to run as a stack in an office environment and in a SoHo like a house with a few cameras and the like they will last for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 2 hours ago, Alphonsox said: Where having a Gigabit switch helps is if you are moving large chucks of data around your network, streaming high resolution video from a PC to a TV for instance. Which I've mentioned is the long term plan so is relevant tbh. ?? 38 minutes ago, PeterW said: Right ... this is a Cisco Catalyst 500 managed PoE switch - 24 port and you can buy these for less than £30 on the 'bay all day. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371819484580 It has a web based interface and you can create a VLAN for gaming, one for CCTV and one for other traffic etc in the space of minutes. They are designed to run as a stack in an office environment and in a SoHo like a house with a few cameras and the like they will last for decades. Ok, cheap enough. ? Ta. Managed...... Will this need configuring? If so can it be done off my boys PC? You up for some tuition ? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 43 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: Will this need configuring? If so can it be done off my boys PC? You up for some tuition ? ???? Yeh its dead easy - Cisco actually write decent manuals for getting started on this sort of stuff and if you make a hash of it you can just reset it and away you go... best thing is to take a backup of the config when you are done and store it somewhere - in the unlikely event the switch goes bang you can restore all the settings in about 10 mins.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 What pc did you get your lad in the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 21 hours ago, Onoff said: What pc did you get your lad in the end? The gumtree one. Upgraded it to 16gb for £30. £480 in total with a 24" hdmi monitor ( used but good ) and he was a genuine nice guy so happy to part with the money. Water cooled and overclocked to 4.2 something or other ? I told my boy he's not getting it until 6th jan ( due to a big demand before Xmas lol ) but I've got it ready for him to open Xmas day. Gonna get a cooks match box and wrap it as his "opening present" ( given because he's not getting the PC lol ) with instructions inside about where to go look for it. ? Bingo. Edited to add : The PC was brand new and built fresh to requirement. All the boxes for the bits were supplied and the receipts came with them for the manufacturer warranty. It's only the monitor that was a second Seemed like a good price to me tbh. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Nick, you big ol softee.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 The other 364 days I'm a tough guy ? ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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