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North Glasgow so winter winds can be wild and it’s a little exposed.

3.5m sq, same shape as the wrecked Aldi fabric gazebo, killed by last nights May winds.
New Expensive patio furniture is on order and it’ll protect this in winter too

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It’s to cover this decking, meets Scottish permitted development rules, snip

 

The permitted development rules for an ancillary building are:

it's located at the back of the house

it's not used as a separate home to live in

it, and any other development, does not take up half or more of the 'curtilage' – this means half or more of the grounds behind your home

it's not higher than 4 metres at the highest point

any part that's a metre or less from the boundary is no higher than 2.5 metres

the eaves (the part where the wall meets the roof) is no higher than 3 metres

if the land is in a conservation area or in the grounds of a listed building, the ancillary building has a footprint of less than 4 square metres

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something like this but just posts on the corners.

How to anchor the posts?

Roof structure for a square hipped roof, I’m not bad with timber but by no means professional?
I’m inclined towards a beefy structure with say 6x2’s for the perimeter of the roof edge?

 

Appearance from underneath, thinking frame it, paint/stain the frame and then sheet it in ply (maybe pre painted in a contrast from the frame) then felt tiles as they easy and neat?

Don't plan gutters but maybe?

id welcome the collective knowledge...

 

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I’m gazing at my Aldi special now worrying about the wind. Gusting already but not supposed to windy till later. Took it down last week when it was 40mph ?. Forecast is 35mph+ later.

 

Wont you have to lift the decking and fix your post into the ground? 

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Okay so I’ve decided to go ahead and drop the uprights into a hefty pit and concrete them in.

spent close to a grand today on timber, tiles, paint and whatnot but the timber guys could not do the 4 uprights I need 

4 @ 130mm square planed at 3m in length, nice bullnose chamfered but I can do that myself if need be. They will be stained possibly painted.

where does a man get a hold of such?

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37 minutes ago, Tennentslager said:

where does a man get a hold of such?


I would have thought any “decent” timber merchant could supply that, my local one can. Only needs a thicknesser/planer ( I have one but am a long way from you ???)

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10 minutes ago, Onoff said:

Thank you but out of stock (the website just said we don’t deliver to your postcode...? Cumbernauld is 5 miles from me) 

i have found a place in Moffat that I can phone tomorrow and ask?

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Ryder Services in Moffat will deliver 4@ 150mm redwood posts PAR and treated for £202 including delivery and VAT

 I’m happy at £50 each?

Photos will be along in a week or so as well as questions about a cut hipped roof, never done anything like it before 

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Back from holiday, first time I’ve chosen Aberdeenshire, lovely people, lovely wee fishing village, everyone great with CV19 precautions and so nice to sit outside and have a pint.

Anyhow, started today. Decided to drop the posts 500 below the decking, batten and screw into the joists then shutter around that and pour in a cement and stone mix. 
Think it will withstand the winter gales.

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Two of the big corner posts in, two more then the wall plate and I’ll post more pictures then

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Okay, got out of the ground...next the roof.AB08334B-AAE9-4BC9-B70E-85815739625A.thumb.jpeg.2c761837c5dfe0c88a40bd9ede21b096.jpegSo, not sure of the correct terminology so I’ll make some up? I’m having a floating octagonal king post, fashioned out of a cut off of the big posts.

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I will put in a centre post directly under the king post and screw home to keep everything supported.

I also feel fairly confident about the standard rafters (from king post to the centre of the wall plate) but will be asking for help (thanks for the kind pm @Simon offering help) with the angle nightmare that is the jack rafters.

Can I ask one thing? I plan to leave the rafter ends long and cut them after the roof frame is complete.

Is this correct? Should I cut the diagonal rafters to the correct size (300mm overhang) or also leave them proud?

 

 

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Dec caulk will be fine if it's not in direct rainfall. If you use silicone you wont be able to use any water-based products thereafter. Prob best to paint it all up and look at whats left. If necessary, then choose a product to fill with, probably frame sealant would be best at that stage and is over-paintable when you tart it up next..

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No nonsense exterior frame filler from Screwy does it, 3.5 squid and one tube will cover a multitude of sins?

I have a plan to measure/cut the jack rafters but I’ll holler if I get stuck

oh and those videos are great @Declan52 but double Dutch mostly to me

Canny quite beleive how strong it is, even with 4 rafters I could stand on it, with 8 it is solid

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Got a half day off so cracked on in the sun.

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bingo bango...time for a wash and as it’s Friday

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Hello lovely 

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