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Eclisse pocket door confusion


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26 minutes ago, PeterStarck said:

So that white strip is non removable and therefore you can't screw through the metal and replace the white strip? Where is the door stop?

Exactly .

The door stop ( as I understand it ) is in the anti slam mechanism in the horizontal header rail . I haven’t installed this yet as I don’t have the door . The instructions also ‘suggest’ screwing the metal frame from the rear which seems absurd - some kind of fixing would of helped  

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52 minutes ago, pocster said:

Really ? Is there nothing CT1 can’t do ?

 

Yeah, its useless at stopping hydraulic oil leaking (not under pressure even).

 

Just leave it for 36 hours to go off.

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Well !

 

Eclisse didn’t tell me this ! But .....

Apparently with a glass door you get a wooden doorstop post ( !! ) that glues over that vertical . So you can screw through the face of it . None the less I’ll wait for the actual door to turn up ....

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Here’s the exert 

 

It’s a wooden doorpost designed the cover the current doorpost which converts it to suit the glass door. It’s glued over the top of the doorpost for the wooden door I believe, which would cover up the screw heads.

 

whatever ! Sounds like a bodge too me !

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@pocster Well I wouldn't want to rely solely on an anti slam mechanism in the header rail with a glass door but as you say having a wooden cover piece sounds like an easy way out. My door post has a rubber T piece inset into a groove which acts as a soft stop. I'm sure with more thought they could have designed the white piece on your frame to incorporate a soft stop.

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57 minutes ago, PeterStarck said:

@pocster Well I wouldn't want to rely solely on an anti slam mechanism in the header rail with a glass door but as you say having a wooden cover piece sounds like an easy way out. My door post has a rubber T piece inset into a groove which acts as a soft stop. I'm sure with more thought they could have designed the white piece on your frame to incorporate a soft stop.

Yeah .

What I don’t like is the instructions don’t mention any of this . I really had to push them for an explanation of how this all works . Will update once I have door and post etc .

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Like this . On the left shows an ‘end’ stop type thing in both pictures .

Then beneath it shows the end clip crossed out .

So need end clip don’t need end clip ?

Perhaps it’s me ( probably) or perhaps it’s just confusing . Trial and errors going to be a dog as door weighs 45kg

 

 

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Or they send me 2 anti slam kits - so I have no idea which to use ( or how exactly it works ) - both different lengths 

f ing Eclisse - hate them . Even their technical support didn’t seem to know - of course they are all in self isolation now ffs !

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2 hours ago, pocster said:

Like this . On the left shows an ‘end’ stop type thing in both pictures .

Then beneath it shows the end clip crossed out .

So need end clip don’t need end clip ?

Perhaps it’s me ( probably) or perhaps it’s just confusing . Trial and errors going to be a dog as door weighs 45kg

 

 

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Pretty sure it's telling you to remove the end clip and put it in the bin (personally I'd hang on to it just in case).

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2 hours ago, pocster said:

Or they send me 2 anti slam kits - so I have no idea which to use ( or how exactly it works ) - both different lengths 

f ing Eclisse - hate them . Even their technical support didn’t seem to know - of course they are all in self isolation now ffs !

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What's written on the label on the clear plastic box?

 

I'm wondering if you have anti slam kits for both wood and glass doors.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Temp said:

 

What's written on the label on the clear plastic box?

 

I'm wondering if you have anti slam kits for both wood and glass doors.

 

 

Quite possibly !

Also the sliding vertical track confuses me . You’ve got the sliding bits . But there’s another track in there that moves - don’t understand that at all .

 

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Also have the ‘double side ‘ anti slam . It shows a single door ( not double ) so assumed anti slam on opening and closing ... 

 

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I’ve gone with the Rallenty one for now .But the sliding metal has a ‘bit’ that stops the runner ....

 

Better photo of slidy rail inside rail . Also the bump that stops everything !

 

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There !

Took slidy rail out ( on the left ) this was in the rail on the right so naturally assumed that was correct ; as it was supplied like that . But as I have seen Eclisse send more stuff and variations of instructions because they presumably don’t know what you need . I actually was sent 3 anti slam kits ( 2 of the ‘doubles ‘ ) . Countless frame instructions synthesis line ,vitro ,bias .

Dead helpful !

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4 hours ago, pocster said:

So need end clip don’t need end clip ?

I have similar end clips, which on mine hold the door open very simply by gripping the glass in the spring C shaped bit. Mine is much older though and very different to yours in other ways.

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3 minutes ago, Temp said:

Did you see this video?..

 

 

It covers the wood door but shows how some bits go together.

Yeah I have watched that . Can’t tell if he has that other slidy bit in the rail - I’ve removed mine anyway for now !

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2 hours ago, pocster said:

I just don’t get how the anti slam works . I don’t see how the plastic white clip part ‘catches’ anything to cause it to work .

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I found these instructions which appear similar but only have one white "catch" rather than two.

 

https://www.eclisse.co.uk/content/installation-accessories/603024103%20Scheda%20Rallenty%20BIAS.pdf

 

I think it might catch on the shaped end of "Item C". 

 

Does your kit have the same or similar part?

 

 

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