Cpd Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I know it’s been talked about on other threads but I am following this up for a friend and wanted to clarify if this is the best gun for fist fix. https://www.powertoolworld.co.uk/hitachi-gas-nail-gun-nr90gc2-first-fix-90mm-nailer#review-widget I know @Russell griffiths talked highly of it but was that just by reviews ? Anyone used it ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 The one I have seen the good write ups on and videos is the non gas version, battery only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMcN Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 If I was in the market for one I'd consider these guys, been using their nails in my old paslode and they have been decent. About 30 quid a box. https://supafixings.com/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, BMcN said: If I was in the market for one I'd consider these guys, been using their nails in my old paslode and they have been decent. About 30 quid a box. https://supafixings.com/ Has the gas been ok as I’ve found BeA and Fischer gas to misfire much more than genuine Paslode gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz07 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I've got the Hitachi. Been good for 5 years trade use. When it packs up I'm going dewalt battery only but not for any anti has reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, Oz07 said: I've got the Hitachi. Been good for 5 years trade use. When it packs up I'm going dewalt battery only but not for any anti has reasons. Don’t do it, the dewalt first fix has some of the worst feed back going, stick with the new hikoki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 28 minutes ago, BMcN said: If I was in the market for one I'd consider these guys, been using their nails in my old paslode and they have been decent. About 30 quid a box. https://supafixings.com/ This is the one I got when I didn’t want to spend out on a new paslode, I’m not sure I’m overly impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz07 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Really I thought it had improved on early models? Used my new dewalt 2nd fix in week seems quite powerful but seems convenient you can't get a longer than 1 year warranty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpd Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 https://www.toolden.co.uk/power-tools/cordless-power-tools/cordless-nailers-and-staple-guns/hikoki-nr1890dc-jpz-18v-cordless-1st-fix-framing-nailer-with-2-x-5-0ah-batteries/ so we are talking about this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 9 hours ago, Cpd said: https://www.toolden.co.uk/power-tools/cordless-power-tools/cordless-nailers-and-staple-guns/hikoki-nr1890dc-jpz-18v-cordless-1st-fix-framing-nailer-with-2-x-5-0ah-batteries/ so we are talking about this one. That’s the one with the good reviews. But looking at the price of that dewalt, I think I need to have another read up as it’s been a year since I replaced mine. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 9 hours ago, Oz07 said: Really I thought it had improved on early models? Used my new dewalt 2nd fix in week seems quite powerful but seems convenient you can't get a longer than 1 year warranty! I wonder if they have changed anything, it was a year ago I looked and evybody on the dewalt Facebook page was giving them really bad reviews. Im going to have another look as a bare unit for dewalt is reasonable money and I have all the batteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) So spent a couple of hours on a dewalt site asking questions. It turns out that dewalt have made a type 3 gun, this is supposed to be the best one they have made still not as powerful as the hikoki but some of the lads said they are putting 10,000 nails a week through them which is a huge amount, so that’s a proper test. its A shame they have to make 3 versions before it’s any good. Something else to consider for anybody doing site work is that some some sites are banning gas powered tools. Edited October 27, 2019 by Russell griffiths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpd Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 Good bit of research there @Russell griffiths and thanks for the update, I will let my friend know it’s a toss up between dewalt version 3 or the Hikoki, I think he is still needing quite a few tools so he is going to need to think about going with one brand to sort out the simplicity of batteries, personally I would advise him to go down the dewalt road as they have a lot of other good offerings even though I am a committed makita pilgrim. Just need to track down the no.3 version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz07 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 @Russell griffiths is it the same situation for the second fix dewalt? Apparently the hikoki works like a gas but is electric. On-board compressor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Oz07 said: @Russell griffiths is it the same situation for the second fix dewalt? Apparently the hikoki works like a gas but is electric. On-board compressor? No, second fix dewalt looks good not a lot of bad press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 A mate is in the market for a first fix nail gun. Looking at a second hand Paslode IM360. Any good? Fixing cavity closers to blockwork I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Davies Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) Dunno anything about blockwork but I've been pretty happy with my IM360. Not used any other type of nail gun for comparison, mind you. It's advertised as being able to drive 90mm ring nails where most others can only manage 75mm ring or 90mm smooth. It does comfortably when it's just OSB or whitewood but they need tapping in the last few mm when there's a significant amount of ply involved. Edited November 27, 2019 by Ed Davies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz07 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Onoff said: A mate is in the market for a first fix nail gun. Looking at a second hand Paslode IM360. Any good? Fixing cavity closers to blockwork I believe. Not sure this is the right tool for the job. Deffo don't think it would be one of the jobs I'd be thinking I'll buy a nail gun for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, Oz07 said: Not sure this is the right tool for the job. Deffo don't think it would be one of the jobs I'd be thinking I'll buy a nail gun for that His builder reckons it's the tool for the job. My first question was why hadn't his builder got one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz07 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Would think setting the depth will be a nightmare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 14 hours ago, Onoff said: Fixing cavity closers to blockwork I believe I have an IM350. They are only good for fixing to timber, not steel or blockwork. They may work on a soft aerated block. I thought cavity closers were mostly plastic and either built in as you go or friction fitted into existing openings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr Punter said: I have an IM350. They are only good for fixing to timber, not steel or blockwork. They may work on a soft aerated block. I thought cavity closers were mostly plastic and either built in as you go or friction fitted into existing openings. Just spoke to him and he reckons he can borrow a gun now. Why not just blob some no nails on the back or whack a couple of clout nails in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Davies Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 One thing about the IM360, though: I bought it for the lithium battery (so less messing around with charging) and on the assumption that by the time I was done with it that'd mean a better resale value. Downside being they use different nail packs as the gas cylinder is different from the IM350 and there are clones of the IM350 packs available at about half the Paslode price but weren't for the IM360. List price the IM360 was more expensive than the IM350 by enough that I wouldn't have bothered except the place I got mine had them on introductory offer at quite a lot off making the actual gun slightly cheaper although by the time I'd bought a couple of nail packs it worked out slightly more expensive. My assumption was that clone nail packs for the 360 would come along eventually. However, since then Paslode have bought out a lithium version of the IM350 (lithium battery but, AIUI, same nail packs as the NiMh 350) so cheaper nail packs for the 360 seem less likely now. Bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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